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Title: Classifying counters
Post by: guarded on March 20, 2004, 09:33:02 PM
I have noticed that different styles classify counters different.  For instance what one style calls a grab art we call a basic trick.  Anyway I was just wondering how the different styles classify their counters. In Tum Pai they go like this.

Grab Arts are all extremity grabs.  Single and double hand arm grabs.
Hand shakes with  punch and with threat of punch.
Hammer lock and hammer lock with head lock.
Hair grabs.
Head locks.
And wall counters.

Our Basic Tricks are all lapel grabs with and without punches.  
Two hand grabs with a push, pull and hold.
One hand grab with a right punch in different stages.  One hand grab and push with a punch and pull into a punch.
Then being grabbed from benind.

What others call Punch counters we call Advanced Tricks.  They are all in defense of a straight punch to the face.

Then of course we have all of the other counters that are a little more obvious.  

Title: Re:Classifying counters
Post by: John Bishop on March 20, 2004, 11:09:57 PM
As I was taught the "Original Method" from the Al Reyes lineage:

Defenses against punches are "Punch Counters"
Defenses against all types of grabs are "Grab Arts"
Defenses against knife attacks are "Knife Counters"
Defenses against club attacks are "Club Counters"
Then there are "2 man", "3 man", and "4 man" defenses
And of course the "Advanced Alphabet Techniques"
Title: Re:Classifying counters
Post by: TODD on March 21, 2004, 07:18:45 PM
Grab arts, Advanced tricks(punch), clubs, knives, 2-man, 3-man,ABC's
Title: Re: Classifying counters
Post by: Luis Javier on December 22, 2014, 11:57:33 AM
KSDI of Puerto Rico /Emperado Method
Our general Technics are:
Grab Arts, Counters, Tricks and Drills
knife and club defense
Foot maneuvers and Patron De Pelea (Spanish for Patron Fights)
2-3 man attack
Title: Re: Classifying counters
Post by: Bautista's on March 27, 2021, 06:22:38 PM
Still consider them as kajukenbo technique
Title: Re: Classifying counters
Post by: B DAVIES on March 29, 2021, 08:55:30 AM
From my linage, we called the basic attacks street sets. Then we have the knife sets, ground sets, chair sets, gun takeaways and retention sets, hammer and club sets.