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Gun Counter Self Defense Techniques
« on: November 03, 2004, 12:34:07 PM »
Gun Counter Self Defense Technique # 1

Attack:

Attacker has an automatic hand gun aimed at the Defender's chest at a short distance. Attacker has both hands on the weapon.

There are several techniques involving gun disarms.  More techniques have been added due to the fact that so many different configurations are available.  Hand guns vary in size, shape, configuration, caliber, whether automatic or revolver. Each configuration has a slight variation of leverage. The techniques will be basically the same, however how you would grasp the hand gun would be the major difference.  The size of the weapon is also a consideration. Some techniques work better on a smaller weapon.

Defense:

01. Defender executes a left open hand outward forearm and wrist strike block to about where the Attacker's right thumb is. The Defender's palm is facing toward the Defender.  This would be on the left side of the gun. The Defender immediately turns to the left while stepping in with the right foot keeping the gun out of the line of fire. The Defender has the Defender's left elbow close to the Defender's body on the Defender's left side. The Defender shifts the stance into a "Riding Horse Stance" facing to 9:00.  As this transition is accomplished, the Defender rotates the Defender's left hand so that the Defender grasps on top of the gun controlling the slide and hammer. The Defender quickly grabs the rear part of the gun and the Attacker's right wrist with the Defender's right hand. The Defender has now trapped the Attacker's left arm with the Defender's right arm and elbow next to the Defender's ribs on the Defender's right side.

02. Using both hands the Defender pulls back the Defender's arms so that both elbows are against both of the Defender's sides. The Defender uses both hands to twist forward and down. The Defender twists the gun with both hands inward so that the muzzle is pointing down toward 8:30.

03. Defender lets go of the gun and right wrist of the Attacker with the Defender's right hand.  Defender executes a right point of the elbow strike to the center of the Attacker's sternum. As this movement is accomplished the Defender pulls or jerks the gun and right hand of the Attacker with the Defender's left hand toward 8:30.

04. The Defender executes a right forearm (Thumb side with the palm of the right hand facing down) strike to the Attacker's right wrist and right thumb. The Defender wraps under the gun so that the Defender's right hand grabs the Defender's left wrist. Defender squeezes the Attacker's arms to the Defender's chest.

05. The Defender pivots quickly to the right into a "Right Flexible "T" Stance", pointing the gun muzzle toward the Attacker's neck and jaw on the Attacker's right side. For a split second or two, the Defender closes the eyes in case gun discharges so the initial muzzle blast won't temporarily blind the Defender.

06. The Defender executes and downward and outward crane strike block, throwing the Attacker's arms toward the 4:00 direction while the Defender steps back twice toward the 8:00 direction.  The Defender is taking the butt end of the handle and striking down with the right hand while the Defender strikes up with the left palm to make sure the clip is in place. The Defender then places the left palm onto of the slide to check if one is indeed in the chamber.  The Defender then cups the left hand over the right hand. Defender tilts the gun down at an angle to line both sights up with the Attacker's navel.    

« Last Edit: November 04, 2004, 10:12:48 AM by BB54 »
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Re:Gun Counter Self Defense Techniques
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2004, 02:32:51 PM »
For those who may face an attacker armed with a gun, I have a suggestion based upon something that was taught to me in the police academy.

Try and get the person to speak by asking them a question. If the attacker is forced to think about how they will answer the question their response in pulling the trigger will be delayed.

During our gun take-away techniques where we are facing say a person with a gun trying to rob you, we practice saying, "I have $100.00 in my sock, do you want it?"

That simple question does two things. It get's the attacker to look down toward your feet and it requires them to think about how they are going to respond. Both responses get them to focus less on the weapon. And since most want your money, you are offering them exactly what they want.

If you are looking for the best opportunity to act, it will occur when the attacker is forced to think about how to respond to your question and/or looks down. That process may only take 1/2 to 3/4 of a second, but it's your window to act.

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Re:Gun Counter Self Defense Techniques
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2004, 07:07:29 AM »
Professor Powell,
Great post. Alot of times we spend too much time just working the physical skill. More time needs to be spent on the psychological game also.

If we keep aware we can detect potential problems before we are in too deep to get out.

If we work on our verbal de-escalation skills a lot of times we can defuse a potential problem before it goes physical.

The technique you described for the gun also works well for the sucker punch. If you are faced in a no-win situation and have to fight, turn to your offense.

Ask a question, and get him thinking, then nail him..

Hit fast, hit hard, and go to the house..

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Re:Gun Counter Self Defense Techniques
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2004, 10:17:02 AM »
Gun Counter Self Defense Technique # 2

Attack:

Attacker has an automatic hand gun aimed at the Defender's chest at a short distance. Attacker has both hands on the weapon.

Defense:

01. Defender executes a left open hand outward forearm and wrist strike block to about where the Attacker's right thumb is. The Defender's palm is facing toward the Defender.  This would be on the left side of the gun. The Defender immediately turns to the left while stepping in with the right foot keeping the gun out of the line of fire. The Defender has the Defender's left elbow close to the Defender's body on the Defender's left side. The Defender shifts the stance into a "Riding Horse Stance" facing to 9:00.  As this transition is accomplished, the Defender rotates the Defender's left hand so that the Defender grasps on top of the gun controlling the slide and hammer. The Defender places the Defender's right hand between the Attacker's hands and arms and grabs the rear of the gun and the Attacker's right wrist.

02. Defender twists the gun and the Attacker's right hand and right wrist forward and clockwise to get the muzzle of the gun away from the Defender's left arm and elbow. Defender pulls with both hands and arms so that both of the Defender's elbows are pinned against the ribs and sides of the Defender.

03. The Defender suddenly jerks and pulls with the Defender's left hand toward the 8:30 direction while simultaneously letting go with the Defender's right hand and executing a right point of the elbow strike to the middle of the Attacker's sternum.

04. The Defender uses the right wrist and forearm to execute a "Right Inward Forearm Strike Block" targeting the place between the Attacker's right wrist and the first knuckle of the Attacker's right thumb. (This movement is out of Pinan # 9) The Defender disarms the Attacker.

05. The Defender sweeps steps back with the right foot toward the 5:00 direction while "clearing" away the Attacker's left hand and arm with the Defender's right forearm and right back fist strike if the Attacker's left arm is in play.

06. The Defender takes the butt end of the handle and strikes down with the right hand while the Defender strikes up with the left palm to make sure the clip is in place. The Defender then places the left palm onto of the slide to check if one is indeed in the chamber.  The Defender then cups the left hand over the right hand. Defender tilts the gun down at an angle to line both sights up with the Attacker's navel.  
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Re:Gun Counter Self Defense Techniques
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2004, 12:17:46 PM »
Gun Counter Self Defense Technique # 3

Attack:

Attacker has an automatic hand gun aimed at the Defender's chest at a short distance. Attacker has both hands on the weapon.

Defense:

01. Defender executes a left open hand outward forearm and wrist strike block to about where the Attacker's right thumb is. The Defender's palm is facing toward the Defender.  This would be on the left side of the gun. The Defender immediately turns to the left while stepping in with the right foot keeping the gun out of the line of fire. The Defender has the Defender's left elbow close to the Defender's body on the Defender's left side. The Defender executes a right vertical front thrust punch to the Attacker's sternum. The Defender shifts the stance to a "Square Riding Horse Stance" as the right vertical punch makes contact.  The Defender tilts back the right fist as the stance shift is accomplished digging the knuckles of the Defender's right fist into the pressure point on the Attacker's sternum. The Defender rolls the left hand over to grab the top half of the gun and hammer.  The Defender has twisted the gun and the Attacker's right wrist forward and down. The Defender twists the Attacker's gun clockwise with the Defender's left hand and then pulls the Attacker's hand and gun back so that the Defender's left elbow is squeezed against the Defender's ribs on the Defender's left side. The barrel of the gun points toward the 8:00 direction.

02. The Defender wraps the Defender's right forearm and right wrist, with the right palm facing down, on top of the Attacker's wrists as the Defender is turning toward the right and toward the 12:00 direction. The Defender grabs the Defender's left wrist and left forearm with the Defender's right hand.  The Defender traps both of the Attacker's wrists to the Defender's chest. The Defender points the gun barrel toward the Attacker's head and neck.

03. The Defender twists the gun toward 9:00 with the Defender's left hand. Defender strips the weapon from the Attacker's grasp. The Defender strikes the Attacker behind the Attacker's right ear with the gun.

04. The Defender pulls the Attacker's hands across the Defender's chest and then with the right "Crane" hand position throws the Attacker's hands and arms toward the 4:00 direction while stepping back with the right foot toward the 7:30 direction.

05. The Defender takes the butt end of the handle and strikes down with the right hand while the Defender strikes up with the left palm to make sure the clip is in place. The Defender then places the left palm onto of the slide to check if one is indeed in the chamber.  The Defender then cups the left hand over the right hand. Defender tilts the gun down at an angle to line both sights up with the Attacker's navel.    
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Re:Gun Counter Self Defense Techniques
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2004, 12:29:49 PM »
Gun Counter Self Defense Technique # 4

Attack:

Attacker has an automatic hand gun aimed at the Defender's chest at a short distance. Attacker has both hands on the weapon.

Defense:

01. Defender executes a left open hand outward forearm and wrist strike block to about where the Attacker's right thumb is. The Defender's palm is facing toward the Defender.  This would be on the left side of the gun. The Defender immediately turns to the left while stepping in with the right foot keeping the gun out of the line of fire. The Defender has the Defender's left elbow close to the Defender's body on the Defender's left side. The Defender shifts the stance into a "Riding Horse Stance" facing to 9:00.  As this transition is accomplished, the Defender rotates the Defender's left hand so that the Defender grasps on top of the gun controlling the slide and hammer. The Defender places the Defender's right hand between the Attacker's hands and arms and grabs the rear of the gun and the Attacker's right hand and wrist.

02. Defender twists the gun and the Attacker's right hand and right wrist forward and clockwise to get the muzzle of the gun away from the Defender's left arm and elbow. Defender pulls with both hands and arms so that both of the Defender's elbows are pinned against the ribs and sides of the Defender.

03. The Defender uses the Defender's right hand to go over and around the Attacker's right wrist in a right "Crane" hand configuration so that the Defender's right inside of the wrist is draped over the Attacker's right wrist.

04. The Defender turns the body to the right toward the 12:00 direction while twisting the gun with the left hand toward the Attacker's face and neck. The Defender executes a "Right Downward Outward Crane Strike Block" toward the 4:00 direction while simultaneously stepping back with the Defender's right foot toward the 7:30 direction. The Defender's right forearm will loosen the grip of the Attacker's left hand also in this movement.

05. The Defender takes the butt end of the handle and strikes down with the right hand while the Defender strikes up with the left palm to make sure the clip is in place. The Defender then places the left palm onto of the slide to check if one is indeed in the chamber.  The Defender then cups the left hand over the right hand. Defender tilts the gun down at an angle to line both sights up with the Attacker's navel.    
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Re:Gun Counter Self Defense Techniques
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2004, 02:16:58 PM »
Gun Counter Self Defense Technique # 5

Attack:

Attacker has an automatic hand gun aimed at the Defender's chest at a short distance. Attacker has both hands on the weapon.

Defense:

01. Defender executes a left open hand outward forearm and wrist strike block to about where the Attacker's right thumb is. The Defender's palm is facing toward the Defender.  This would be on the left side of the gun. The Defender immediately turns to the left while stepping in with the right foot keeping the gun out of the line of fire. The Defender has the Defender's left elbow close to the Defender's body on the Defender's left side. As this stance shift is accomplished and as the Defender steps forward with the right foot, the Defender executes a right palm facing down, all fingers straight shuto hand thrust to the Attacker's throat.  The Defender pushes and thrusts forward placing all the fingers in the hollow of the Attacker's throat. The Stance shift adds to the force of the thrust.

02. The Defender executes a right downward inward forearm and wrist strike targeting the Attacker's right thumb with the Defender's right wrist bone on the little finger side. The Defender's right forearm on the little finger side will strike and knock away the Attacker's left hand along with the right hand off the gun and toward the 8:30 direction.

03. The Defender steps back with the right foot toward the 5:30 direction. .  The Defender takes the butt end of the handle and strikes down with the right hand while the Defender strikes up with the left palm to make sure the clip is in place. The Defender then places the left palm onto of the slide to check if one is indeed in the chamber.  The Defender then cups the left hand over the right hand. Defender tilts the gun down at an angle to line both sights up with the Attacker's navel.    

04. This is perhaps the longest range of this series of similar techniques.
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Re:Gun Counter Self Defense Techniques
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2004, 03:33:40 PM »
Gun Counter Self Defense Technique # 6

Attack:

Attacker has an automatic hand gun aimed at the Defender's chest at a short distance. Attacker has both hands on the weapon.

Defense:

01. Defender executes a left open hand outward forearm and wrist strike block to about where the Attacker's right thumb is. The Defender's palm is facing toward the Defender.  This would be on the left side of the gun. The Defender immediately turns to the left while stepping in with the right foot keeping the gun out of the line of fire. The Defender has the Defender's left elbow close to the Defender's body on the Defender's left side. The Defender has rolled the Defender's left hand and grabs the top of the hand gun and the Defender's right thumb squeezes the hammer and right thumb of the Attacker. The Defender twists the Attacker's gun and right hand forward and down and then clockwise as the Defender's body turns toward the 12:00 direction.

02. As the Defender turns, the Defender wraps the Defender's right forearm around and on top of both of the Attacker's wrists and grabs the Defender's left wrist with the Defender's right hand. The Defender proceeds to squeeze the Attacker's wrist with both of the Defender's arms against the Defender's chest. The Defender's elbows are pressed tightly against the Defender's ribs on each side. The Defender's right elbow is over both of the Attacker's hands.  Both of the Attacker's hands are over on the Defender's right side.

03. The Defender steps back with the right foot toward 7:00 and strips the gun out of the Attacker's hands.  The Defender takes the butt end of the handle and strikes down with the right hand while the Defender strikes up with the left palm to make sure the clip is in place. The Defender then places the left palm onto of the slide to check if one is indeed in the chamber.  The Defender then cups the left hand over the right hand. Defender tilts the gun down at an angle to line both sights up with the Attacker's navel.    

04. This technique is a little closer range then # 5 and perhaps the fastest of them all.

**** I personally do not like trying to manipulate a hand gun with one hand when the Attacker has two hands on the weapon. I would rather sacrifice speed for safety. I have added variations to these techniques whereby I use both my hands to twist and control the Attacker's hands and the weapon itself. ****
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Re:Gun Counter Self Defense Techniques
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2004, 04:49:19 PM »
Thank you Sigung for all the work put into posting techniques that you have done.

A point of note, the...
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The Defender takes the butt end of the handle and strikes down with the right hand while the Defender strikes up with the left palm to make sure the clip is in place. The Defender then places the left palm onto of the slide to check if one is indeed in the chamber.  The Defender then cups the left hand over the right hand. Defender tilts the gun down at an angle to line both sights up with the Attacker's navel.

...is similar to a common drill taught to clear a jam involving an autoloader (automatic pistol). In the heat of conflict, the check for a round in the chamber could be actually chambering a new round by sliding the chamber fully back and bringing the next round into the chamber.

Do you think chambering a new round might be safer than checking for a round in the chamber. If you check for a round and pull back on the slide too far, but not far enough to eject the round from chamber and load a new one, that could be a way to jam the weapon, which would not be good. Also, chambering a new round, you can use your "memory" to reflect upon if a round was in the chamber, afterwards, rather than physically stopping the flow to look. Or am I over thinking this.

Another question is about the disarms and the potential of an AD (accidental discharge). Does the disarm technique effectively straighten the trigger finger, making it less likely to fire? Sorry, trying to picture what is going on.

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Re:Gun Counter Self Defense Techniques
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2004, 12:34:24 PM »
Gun Counter Self Defense Technique # 7

Attack:

Attacker has an automatic hand gun aimed at the Defender's chest at a short distance. Attacker has both hands on the weapon.

Defense:

01. Defender executes a left open hand outward forearm and wrist strike block to about where the Attacker's right thumb is. The Defender's palm is facing toward the Defender.  This would be on the left side of the gun. The Defender turns the left hand over to grab the top of the gun and hammer. The Defender twists the gun downward and then clockwise toward the right. The Defender executes a right upward palm heel strike to just underneath the Attacker's left eyebrow next to the bridge of the nose and skull.  The weapon used is the Defender's right wrist bone on the little finger side. This is in an upward motion.

02. The Defender shifts the stance into a "Square Riding Horse Stance" facing to the 9:00 direction while simultaneously executing a downward right forearm and hammer fist strike to across both of the Attacker's forearms. The Defender's right downward hammer fist strikes the Attacker's upper forearm at (Large Intestine # 10) the radial nerve and the Defender's right forearm strikes across the same nerve on the Attacker's left forearm. The Defender is using the Defender's right wrist bone on the little finger side to strike the Attacker's right upper forearm. This strike causes a reflex response whereby the fingers loosen on the grip and straightens out.  This strike will also cause a brief paralysis.  Use due caution and care.

03. The Defender strikes on top of the Attacker's wrists with the thumb side of the Defender's right forearm as the Defender wraps under the right forearm under the left and then the Defender grabs the Defender's left wrist and forearm (palms facing down) with the Defender's right hand.  The Defender has trapped and is squeezing the Attacker's wrists against the Defender's chest.  The Defender is turning toward the right using the body to twist the Attacker's hands.

04. Defender pivots to the right from a "Square Riding Horse Stance" to a "High Right Forward Stance" facing to 12:00. This turn may cause the barrel of the gun to strike the right side of the Attacker's face.

05. As the pivot is completed, the Defender raises the Defender's left elbow up to strike the Attacker in the back of the Attacker's head and neck.  The Defender twists the gun to the left stripping the weapon out of the Attacker's hands.  The Defender traps the Attacker's hands against the Defender's chest with the Defender's right hand and forearm.

06. The Defender uses the butt end of the gun to strike the Attacker behind the Attacker's right ear and on the mastoid bone.

07. Defender pulls and pushes the Attacker's hands toward the 4:00 direction as the Defender steps back with the Defender's right foot toward the 8:30 direction while doing the basic drill of tap, clear, fold and aim.

Gun Counter Self Defense Technique # 8

01. Basically the same technique as # 7 with the exception that the Defender goes directly to striking down on the Attacker's forearms (radial nerves) with the Defender's right forearm and right hammer fist.

Gun Counter Self Defense Technique # 9

01. Defender grabs the gun with the left and then the right hand.  Defender twists forward and down, and then clockwise. The Defender begins to turn to the right then executes a right back fist strike to the Attacker's sternum.  The Defender then executes the wrap, turn, strike with the left elbow, strip, strike with the gun, throw the arms away.

Gun Counter Self Defense Technique # 10

01. Same as # 9 except use a right forearm strike across the Attacker's throat and right side of the neck. (right fist palm facing down) The Defender then executes the same movements as the end of # 7.

Gun Counter Self Defense Technique # 11

01. Same as # 9 with the exception of executing the right forearm strike and then a downward right forearm strike across both of the Attacker's radial nerves. The Defender then executes the same movements as the end of # 7.


****Each of these has a different range between the Attacker and Defender.  As stated before, I prefer grabbing and controlling the gun with both hands before the hits. There are different angles to stripping away the weapon.  One has to work with the techniques to get the variations.****
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Re:Gun Counter Self Defense Techniques
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2004, 03:17:05 PM »
Gun Counter Self Defense Technique # 12

Attack:

Attacker has an automatic hand gun aimed at the Defender's chest at a short distance. Attacker has both hands on the weapon. Attacker has the Attacker's right foot forward.


Defense:

01. Defender executes a left open hand outward forearm and wrist strike block to about where the Attacker's right thumb is. The Defender's palm is facing toward the Defender.  This would be on the left side of the gun. The Defender turns the left hand over to grab the top of the gun and hammer. The Defender grabs the Attacker's right hand, wrist and rear of the gun with the Defender's right hand as the Defender steps forward with the right foot then shifts the stance to a "Square Riding Horse Stance" facing to 9:00.  As the stance shift is accomplished, the Defender twists the gun with both of the Defender's hands, forward and down and then turning with both hands clockwise while pulling back with both hands so that both of the Defender's elbows are braced against the Defender's ribs.

02. As the Defender twists, with the entire body, toward the right, the Defender crescent steps forward toward 12:00 with the Defender's right foot and leg.  The Defender has wrapped the Defender's right leg around the Attacker's front right leg and dragged shuffle stepped with the Defender's left foot and leg so that the "Square Riding Horse Stance" is still at the same height and width.

03. The Defender places the Defender's right elbow and upper forearm on the Attacker's upper forearm on the inside of the Attacker's right arm near the Attacker's right biceps muscle. The Defender executes a downward right elbow strike against the Attacker's right upper forearm on the inside while bowing forward at the waist.

04. As the Attacker begins to fall, the Defender sweeps back slightly with the Defender's right leg and foot, sweeping the Attacker's right leg. The Defender has moved the defender's right elbow over and in front of both of the Attacker's wrists and hands. The Defender then shifts the stances to the right while twisting the gun to the same direction. Use due caution and care as the barrel of the gun is intended to strike the back of the Attacker's head.

05. The Defender steps back with first the left foot and then the right foot toward the 2:00 direction while using the Defender's right elbow to strip the gun away from the Attacker's grasp.

06. Defender proceeds with the drill to tap, clear, cup and aim.  
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Re:Gun Counter Self Defense Techniques
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2004, 12:32:21 PM »
Gun Counter Self Defense Technique # 13

Attack:

Attacker has an automatic hand gun aimed at the Defender's chest at a short distance. Attacker has both hands on the weapon. Attacker has the Attacker's left foot forward.


Defense:

01. Defender executes a left open hand outward forearm and wrist strike block to about where the Attacker's right thumb is. The Defender's palm is facing toward the Defender.  This would be on the left side of the gun. The Defender turns the left hand over to grab the top of the gun and hammer. The Defender grabs the Attacker's right hand, wrist and rear of the gun with the Defender's right hand as the Defender crescent steps forward with the right foot then shifts the stance to a "Square Riding Horse Stance" facing to 9:00.  As the stance shift is accomplished, the Defender twists the gun with both of the Defender's hands, forward and down and then turning with both hands clockwise while pulling back with both hands so that both of the Defender's elbows are braced against the Defender's ribs.

02. The Defender has turned clockwise so that the gun is pointing down toward the 8:30 direction.  As the Defender is turning toward 12:00 the Defender executes a "Right Downward Forearm And Bottom Fist Strike" to the Attacker's radial nerves.  The Defender then pulls the Attacker's arm toward the Defender's chest while riding up the Attacker's arms toward the Attacker's wrists with the Defender's right inside of the forearm and wrist. The Defender's is also twisting the Attacker's right hand and gun toward the 10:00 direction and down and back toward the same direction. The Defender is squeezing the wrists against the Defender's chest with the Defender's right forearm.  Both of the Defender's elbows and inside of the forearms are squeezed tightly against both sides of the Defender's ribs.  The Defender bends the knees and bends over slightly toward the 10:00 direction. This motion is like a clockwise spiral to cinch up the hold.

03. The Defender suddenly executes a right (Fist palm facing down) forearm and bottom fist strike to the Attacker's throat, right side of the neck and back of the head by the skull on the Attacker's right side. (many pressure points struck) The Defender then recaptures the Attacker's wrists with the Defender's thumb side of the forearm, wraps under and grabs the Defender's left wrist with the Defender's right hand. The Defender squeezes both wrists to the Defender's chest.

04. The Defender turns more clockwise toward the 2:00 direction striking the Attacker's right side of the face with the gun barrel followed by a left point of the elbow strike to the back of the Attacker's head.

05. Defender steps back toward the 3:30 direction slightly with the Defender's left foot, shifting the stance to a "High Left Kneeling Stance" facing to the 8:00 direction while simultaneously striking across one or both of the Attacker's lower forearms with the point of the Defender's right elbow. The Defender continues the motion of the elbow strike so that the Defender's right elbow is over and in front of both wrists of the Attacker.

06. The Defender sweep crescent steps back with the Defender's right leg to sweep the Attacker's left leg out from underneath while pulling back with the right elbow and twisting the gun out of the Attacker's grasp with the Defender's left hand counter clockwise. The Defender first shifts back into a "Riding Horse Stance" facing to 10:00 and then steps back left then right while looking around in all directions and at the same time doing the tap, clear, cup and aim drill with the hand gun.

****I have a notebook that is about 35 years old now.  I have rewritten all of it so if one is lost I have a good copy.  I also video taped all the techniques and forms I had written down.  I just wish I had taken better notes and had written down all the techniques and forms that Professor Joe Clarke taught me.  I am very grateful to him for insisting on keeping a notebook.  Every technique and form that I have posted on this site comes from that very notebook.****

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Re:Gun Counter Self Defense Techniques
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2004, 12:27:46 PM »
Gun Counter Self Defense Technique # 14

Attack:

Attacker has a gun in the Attacker's right hand pointed at the Defender's solar plexus about 12" away from contact.  Attacker has the Attacker's right foot forward.

Defense:

01. The Defender turns the Defender's upper body to the right toward the 3:00 direction while simultaneously executing a left inside palm parry then grab the Attacker's right hand and gun pushing both the gun and the Attacker's right hand toward the 3:00 direction.  The Defender moves the right arm to be placed by the Defender's right side and hip to keep the Defender's right arm out of the line of fire. The Defender is using a left stiff arm technique. The Defender steps forward slightly with the left foot.

02. The Defender arcs the Attacker's right hand, gun and arm in a vertical counter clockwise motion high overhead from the 3:00 position to the 11:00 position while twisting the Attacker's right hand and gun forward and down.  The Defender then brings the Attacker's right hand and gun straight down while grasping the Attacker's right hand and gun with the Defender's right hand.  The Defender is grabbing the Defender's own left hand with the fingers of the Defender's right hand while placing the Defender's right thumb on the Attacker's right trigger finger. The Defender is bending the Attacker's right hand and gun forward toward the Attacker's head and face.  It is important to keep both of the Defender's arms stiff. The Defender steps back with the Defender's left foot then the right foot while continuing to apply pressure on the Attacker's right hand and gun forward and down.

03. As the Attacker falls the Defender strips the gun out of the grasp of the Attacker's right hand making sure to continue to point the gun barrel toward the Attacker with the Defender's left hand toward 10:00. At the same time the Defender pulls and throws the Attacker's right hand across and down toward the 3:30 direction with the Defender's right hand.

04. The Defender executes the drill of tap, clear, cup and aim.  
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Re:Gun Counter Self Defense Techniques
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2004, 01:46:44 PM »
Gun Counter Self Defense Technique # 15

Attack:

Attacker has a gun in the Attacker's right hand pointed at the Defender's solar plexus about 12" away from contact.  Attacker has the Attacker's right foot forward.

Defense:

01. The Defender turns the Defender's upper body to the right toward the 3:00 direction while simultaneously executing a left inside palm parry then grab the Attacker's right hand and gun pushing both the gun and the Attacker's right hand toward the 3:00 direction.  The Defender moves the right arm to be placed by the Defender's right side and hip to keep the Defender's right arm out of the line of fire. The Defender is using a left stiff arm technique. The Defender steps forward slightly with the left foot. The Defender bends the Attacker's right hand, wrist and gun forward

02. The Defender executes a right back fist strike to the Attacker's right thumb and wrist. The blow does not recoil.  The striking surface is the back of the Defender's right hand with knuckles striking the heel of the Attacker's right palm and wrist. As this strike is accomplished, the Defender twists the Attacker's right hand in a small vertical counter clockwise direction while simultaneously pulling back and down with the Defender's right back fist toward the 4:00 direction and stepping back with the right foot. This motion due to the wedge type leverage strips the gun out of the grasp of the Attacker's right hand.

03. The Defender executes the drill of tap, clear, cup and aim.
Brian Bruce Baxter. 8th Degree Black Belt Kajukenbo (Gaylord Method).  3rd Degree Black Belt Tracy's Kenpo Karate. 3rd Degree Black Belt Aikijitsu. 2nd Degree Black Belt Mu Duk Kwan.  22 years experience Yang Tai Chi Chuan.