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Women Soldiers in Iraq
« on: May 21, 2005, 02:11:16 PM »
I want to thank all the women who are currently serving our country. We currently know of one female friend who is serving in Iraq. Although I don't want to start a debate on the whole women in combat issue, I'm tired of these politicians acting like they know what women really want. Please stop trying to disguise your chauvinism in a form of protectionism.  >:(

The women who volunteered to serve in the army do so with pride. Please don't limit their choices. I agree with the article below. Support our troops and respect our women soldiers! -kempomama

Chauvinism at the Battlefront
Female soldiers are barred by national policy from direct ground combat in Iraq, but that has not saved the lives of 34 American women killed so far in that lethal battlefield bereft of front lines. In a remedy steeped more in misplaced gallantry than wisdom, House Republicans ran into Pentagon opposition this week with a sudden proposal to protect women by cutting back the jobs they could hold in support units stationed to the rear of ground combat soldiers. The net effect, Army leaders properly warned, would hurt women's careers by shutting them out of more than 20,000 vital support jobs in a military effort that is already hard-pressed to keep its ranks filled with fresh volunteers.

Fighter aircraft and surface warship postings were opened to women a decade ago in a heated but progressive national debate after the Persian Gulf war. The overall policy entrusted to the Pentagon provided larger job opportunities for women in the services. Right now, with a war raging, female soldiers vital to the effort need no demoralizing intrusion into the gender issue by impulsive lawmakers.

As it turns out, the job cutback proposal created such a furor from military professionals and opposition Democrats that Republicans on the House Armed Services Committee had to retreat at the last minute, but not entirely. They approved a face-saving substitute that is less sweeping but would still give Congress excessive power to control future advancements for women in the military.

The amendment would hobble service commanders and deserves to be stricken next week in the House floor debate on the defense authorization bill.

The gruesome truth remains that war is hell, even as its front lines become viciously vague. The daily car bombings, suicide atrocities and insurgent raids show that no area of Iraq, from Humvee patrols to chow halls, is a safe haven for the occupation troops, male or female. Women have volunteered for the full range of opportunity and risk implicit in their military careers. They are proving their valor in Iraq and need no demeaning protections from Congress.

« Last Edit: May 27, 2005, 02:14:07 PM by kempomama »
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Re: Women Soldiers in Iraq
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2005, 02:21:32 PM »
Don't play politics with national security issues or women's rights.  >:(

Thank you again to all the female soldiers from yesterday to today to tommorrow. Despite what those who are stuck in the dark ages think, our women soldiers help keep our nation safe and strong. ;D Thank you  ;D

The below article was reprinted from today's Salon.com

G.I. Jane kicks some GOP butt

On Wednesday, Republican lawmakers retreated from plans to restrict the roles of women serving in Iraq. The plan, led by House Armed Services Committee chair, Rep. Duncan Hunter of California, had sought to codify a 1994 Pentagon policy that barred women from serving in most direct combat roles.

"The policy, based on Cold War-era concepts of warfare, was rendered partly moot by insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan who do not distinguish between troops on front lines and those on theoretically safer missions elsewhere, such as escorting cargo convoys," the Los Angeles Times explained. "Women now serve as gunners atop Humvees on perilous Iraqi streets. Hunter was particularly concerned that women were allowed to serve in armored Stryker vehicles that are used in combat situations."

The plan to scale back women's service was shot down by opposition ranging from the Secretary of the Army to the American Civil Liberties Union, as well as Democrats and some members of Hunter's own party. "At a time when our armed forces are overstretched, we shouldn't be turning away people who want to serve their country," Rep. Ellen O. Tauscher, a Democrat from California, told the Los Angles Times. "Invoking the names of two female soldiers captured by Iraqi insurgents and later freed, she added, 'This step is a slap in the face to the Jessica Lynches and Shoshana Johnsons of our military, who served our nation ably and nobly.'"

Of course, there’s a pragmatic reason as well as a patriotic one for letting women continue to serve on the dangerous streets of Baghdad and beyond. Considering the extreme lengths that military recruiters have been going to get soldiers signed up, it's no wonder that the Pentagon doesn’t want to diss women willing to give their all.
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Re: Women Soldiers in Iraq
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2005, 09:37:45 PM »
There is no reason what so ever that makes any real logical sense why women shouldn’t continue to serve their nation in combats zones especially in today’s environments like Iraq. After 18 years of service in both mixed and male only units both in and out of combat zones I can tell you that some soldiers (both male and female) do well and others do not. Never is “just” their gender a sole consideration for why they don’t do well.

My first mission in Iraq was escorting a group of high ranking officials, two of whom happened to be Marine’s that were females. One was a Colonel who was tough as nails and had a key intelligence role to play with transition of US forces and British forces in an area of southern Iraq. She never had a problem with being a woman and neither did the Marines and soldiers like me following her.

Other women I served with didn’t do combat patrols like us Infantry dudes but they were patrolling in the vehicles as MP’s keeping streets cleared, marking check points, escorting convoys. It didn’t seem to bother the guys who worked with them daily. We need to move forward and treat women with the respect they deserve as people first. I always joke with my daughter about her being the first woman to go to Ranger school and graduating. In reality as a father I don’t want any of my children going into the service. That is not because I don’t think they would do well but because my family has had an Olsen serving ever since we came to America. Every male and several females, like my mother, have served. No, given the choice as a parent I would rather my children do something else but I tell my daughter this because I want her to know that there is no challenge to tough for her to take on if she wants it bad enough. I want her to know her father believes in her.

I say no matter what your gender what matters when the lead starts flying is how strong your spirit is and how well you are prepared to fight!
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Re: Women Soldiers in Iraq
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2005, 12:56:41 PM »
Great post Kenpomama. My best to you, Chief and the kids.

Sifu Morg I appreciate your post. Thank you.
No doubt your daughter must be just as proud of you too.

I'm going to call my dad today, just because. ;D


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