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Offline kadena

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GM Gaylord's Influence on Pinans and Kata?
« on: April 12, 2005, 08:04:42 PM »
Can anyone shed some light on the history of GM Gaylord's influence on the katas and pinans of his method? In the General History section under 'history of our kata and pinyans' there's information related to the pinans but not the kata that were developed by GM Gaylord. I was told that he no longer practices kata 1-4.
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Re: GM Gaylord's Influence on Pinans and Kata?
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2005, 05:07:32 PM »
Grand Master Gaylord took the knowledge that he learned over the years and developed his own method of katas and Pinyans.  Therefore developing the "Gaylord's Method". The Kata's 1-5 were taught to his students years ago and then they were taught to the schools/students.  Some instructors did not continue to teach the kata's, although of Kata's have been documented by Grand Master so they will never be lost. 

The kata's are now used for basic movement and practice to develop your blocks and strikes. 

(This is a direct quote from Grand Master Gaylord)
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Re: GM Gaylord's Influence on Pinans and Kata?
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2008, 05:26:51 PM »
Do the forms practiced in the Gaylord Method resemble the forms in the original method?
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Re: GM Gaylord's Influence on Pinans and Kata?
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2008, 08:31:19 PM »
Do the forms practiced in the Gaylord Method resemble the forms in the original method?

I respond to this based on 3 references I have used as guidelines.
 - G.M. Forbach's Panther video series
 - The WKA video series
 - Training with OHS guys from Texas

There are many similarities to the way the Gaylord method and the OHS style do the Pinans. When I compare the 2, my personal opinion is that the Gaylord Pinans end the forms better than the OHS style Pinans I have seen.

Other than that, there are a few variations but pretty minor in the big picture.

No doubt about it, they were built upon fruit from the same tree...

Keep up the hard training.

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Re: GM Gaylord's Influence on Pinans and Kata?
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2008, 11:57:36 AM »
Thanks Mr. Goldade for your response, does the Gaylord Method practice the forms a bit softer than OHS?

Also glad to meet another Kajukenbo guy from Texas, I travel down to the Guadalupe at least once a year maybe I could stop in and see you.


Thanks Steve
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Re: GM Gaylord's Influence on Pinans and Kata?
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2008, 05:24:27 PM »
There are several in the Gaylord system that are what we consider soft, but it isn't the norm.  Though in the hard forms there are soft parts...
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Re: GM Gaylord's Influence on Pinans and Kata?
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2008, 05:32:46 PM »
Thanks Mr. Goldade for your response, does the Gaylord Method practice the forms a bit softer than OHS?

Also glad to meet another Kajukenbo guy from Texas, I travel down to the Guadalupe at least once a year maybe I could stop in and see you.


Thanks Steve

Any time brother. My door is always open to Ohana.

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Re: GM Gaylord's Influence on Pinans and Kata?
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2008, 05:39:21 PM »
Aloha,

The forms I observed that were performed by Professor Yoshi are not soft 

Mahalo


Brother Gerry,
I agree no single form is completely soft from start to finish, but as Professor Bono stated many have softer movements inside of them. Pinans 1 thru 5 are hard. #6 is a softer open handed version of #5. #7 -14 all have some soft style movements and flow.

Compared to a Tum Pai, or Si-Lum set they could be considered hard, but not any harder than an OHS palama set.

I haven't seen the Chuan-Fa forms from G.M. Delacruz, so I can't compare them to those.

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Re: GM Gaylord's Influence on Pinans and Kata?
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2008, 07:17:26 PM »
7, 11, 12, 13, 14 all have flowing circular motions and where I come from that is soft...and purdy....
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