Author Topic: High School Students/Black Belt Students  (Read 15096 times)

Offline Trent Sera

  • BlackBelt
  • White Belt
  • *
  • Posts: 36
    • Sera's Kajukenbo
High School Students/Black Belt Students
« on: September 13, 2007, 04:25:48 PM »
Aloha everyone,

I was wondering if anyone has a successful way of encouraging students to keep training when they reach the high school age and want to do other activities and get into the social scene.  Also, the same thing for when students reach black belt and stop training.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

Sifu Trent Sera
Sera's Kajukenbo
Maui, Hawaii
Sigung Trent Sera - 6th Degree
Sera's Kajukenbo
Maui, Hawaii
Under GM Clarence Emperado Luna

Offline NYKaju

  • Black Belt
  • *****
  • Posts: 1113
  • Village Pariah
Re: High School Students/Black Belt Students
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2007, 04:31:45 PM »
Aloha everyone,

I was wondering if anyone has a successful way of encouraging students to keep training when they reach the high school age and want to do other activities and get into the social scene.  Also, the same thing for when students reach black belt and stop training.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

Sifu Trent Sera
Sera's Kajukenbo
Maui, Hawaii

With boys, sell them on the badass image that you've been telling them you don't want to see since they were kids :)

Push them to jump into local amateur competitions so they have something to strive for besides rank. Despite how girls tend to hate fighting, it's no secret that they love fighters. Give them something to help them get the ladies, and they will stay with you forever ;D

Girls....well you're up the brown creek I'm afraid. They either enjoy it or they don't by that point, and unfortunately upholding the "girly" frail image at that age can take hold, at least until they are into college and suddenly want to be "tough" and independent again.
Sensei/Coach James Mayors
Ronin Martial Arts
Kajukenbo under Dan Tyrrell
BJJ under Matt Serra
Judo under Mark Staniszewski
"You don't rise to the level of your expectations, you fall to the level of your training"

Offline KajuJKDFighter

  • Senior Moderator
  • Black Belt
  • *****
  • Posts: 3442
  • "Accept the things to which fate binds you"
    • Bono's Jeet Kune Do and Kajukenbo
Re: High School Students/Black Belt Students
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2007, 05:29:11 PM »
I haven't seemed to need to convince teens that it will get them gals, if they have been training a while they have that confidence anyway.  The competition does keep their interest in trainer and the reality that they must train to keep up.....With the Black Belt's it's more about training at a higher level with the head instructor in my book.........I'm sure there are Many ideas out there
GM John E Bono DC
9th Degree Grand Master Gaylord Method Kajukenbo
Full Instructor-Hartsell's Jeet Kune Do Grappling Assoc
Chief Instructor Bono's Jeet Kune Do/Kajukenbo
Champions aren't made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them a desire,a dream,a vision

Offline Gints Klimanis

  • Moderators
  • Black Belt
  • ****
  • Posts: 1159
    • Gentlemen's Fighting Club
Re: High School Students/Black Belt Students
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2007, 07:57:12 PM »
I've seen quite a few guys and a few girls train from preteen, then leave roughly around the time they get their driver's license.  Some of the guys have cited football or basketball as their new exercise, and you it's tough to argue that a gi will help with the ladies more than a high school team uniform.   Though, UFC may have changed that a bit.  My impression of the American public perception of martial arts in the past has been the weird, wimpy kung-fu guy picking up martial arts because he couldn't make a high school team.  Has that perception improved much with the emergence of McDojo karate kid daycare ?

"We do not condone the use of a toilet seat as a deadly weapon"
Go Shin Jutsu Kenpo, 3rd Degree Black Belt Prof. Richard Lewis
Bono JKD/Kajukenbo, Prof. John Bono, San Jose, CA
Baltic Dog, Dog Brothers Martial Arts

Offline KajuJKDFighter

  • Senior Moderator
  • Black Belt
  • *****
  • Posts: 3442
  • "Accept the things to which fate binds you"
    • Bono's Jeet Kune Do and Kajukenbo
Re: High School Students/Black Belt Students
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2007, 07:59:56 PM »
I think all the MMA hype has helped the image of the martial artists to the public and hurt it in many ways to the true martial artists that see some of the meat heads that train for 3 months and think they are the man....
GM John E Bono DC
9th Degree Grand Master Gaylord Method Kajukenbo
Full Instructor-Hartsell's Jeet Kune Do Grappling Assoc
Chief Instructor Bono's Jeet Kune Do/Kajukenbo
Champions aren't made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them a desire,a dream,a vision

Offline badsifu

  • restricted
  • Brown Belt
  • ****
  • Posts: 971
Re: High School Students/Black Belt Students
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2007, 08:05:06 PM »
I started Kajukenbo when I was 8.  I think that time was really tough because of all the social things and the added homework.  Having your family train was what I think got me through that time.
Dan Tyrrell

Offline KajuJKDFighter

  • Senior Moderator
  • Black Belt
  • *****
  • Posts: 3442
  • "Accept the things to which fate binds you"
    • Bono's Jeet Kune Do and Kajukenbo
Re: High School Students/Black Belt Students
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2007, 08:36:17 PM »
That's probably the best case scenario family training........I started about the same age in the arts but was more or a self motivated kid.....just loved the fighting part...well and the TV show Kung Fu which had started that same yr I believe....."Grasshopper"
GM John E Bono DC
9th Degree Grand Master Gaylord Method Kajukenbo
Full Instructor-Hartsell's Jeet Kune Do Grappling Assoc
Chief Instructor Bono's Jeet Kune Do/Kajukenbo
Champions aren't made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them a desire,a dream,a vision

Offline Gints Klimanis

  • Moderators
  • Black Belt
  • ****
  • Posts: 1159
    • Gentlemen's Fighting Club
Re: High School Students/Black Belt Students
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2007, 10:26:21 PM »
My family started me playing tennis at an early age.  Now, I like to stick fight.  What a disappointment to the family !
"We do not condone the use of a toilet seat as a deadly weapon"
Go Shin Jutsu Kenpo, 3rd Degree Black Belt Prof. Richard Lewis
Bono JKD/Kajukenbo, Prof. John Bono, San Jose, CA
Baltic Dog, Dog Brothers Martial Arts

Offline NYKaju

  • Black Belt
  • *****
  • Posts: 1113
  • Village Pariah
Re: High School Students/Black Belt Students
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2007, 10:38:14 PM »
My family started me playing tennis at an early age.  Now, I like to stick fight.  What a disappointment to the family !


It's ok, McEnroe approves
Sensei/Coach James Mayors
Ronin Martial Arts
Kajukenbo under Dan Tyrrell
BJJ under Matt Serra
Judo under Mark Staniszewski
"You don't rise to the level of your expectations, you fall to the level of your training"

Offline Gints Klimanis

  • Moderators
  • Black Belt
  • ****
  • Posts: 1159
    • Gentlemen's Fighting Club
Re: High School Students/Black Belt Students
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2007, 02:09:15 AM »
There were some pseudo-rap lyrics by Limp Bizkit along the lines of :
"But I'll serve 'em up like John McEnroe."
"We do not condone the use of a toilet seat as a deadly weapon"
Go Shin Jutsu Kenpo, 3rd Degree Black Belt Prof. Richard Lewis
Bono JKD/Kajukenbo, Prof. John Bono, San Jose, CA
Baltic Dog, Dog Brothers Martial Arts

Offline NYKaju

  • Black Belt
  • *****
  • Posts: 1113
  • Village Pariah
Re: High School Students/Black Belt Students
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2007, 07:18:29 AM »
There were some pseudo-rap lyrics by Limp Bizkit along the lines of :
"But I'll serve 'em up like John McEnroe."


His enemies tremble...
Sensei/Coach James Mayors
Ronin Martial Arts
Kajukenbo under Dan Tyrrell
BJJ under Matt Serra
Judo under Mark Staniszewski
"You don't rise to the level of your expectations, you fall to the level of your training"

Offline William Badders

  • BlackBelt
  • White Belt
  • *
  • Posts: 38
  • William Badders
    • U.S. Karate Systems
Re: High School Students/Black Belt Students
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2007, 09:37:03 AM »
i started martial arts at the age of fives.  before i got my DL i would miss some classes because parents would not feel like taking me to class, but when i got my DL i was always there. never missed a day.
~Will
2nd Dan Kajukenbo Under Sigung Goldade<br />Instructor Phan-ku Ryu Jujitsu Under Sensei Patterson

LOYALONEHK

  • Guest
Re: High School Students/Black Belt Students
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2007, 10:05:05 AM »
i started martial arts at the age of fives.  before i got my DL i would miss some classes because parents would not feel like taking me to class, but when i got my DL i was always there. never missed a day.
~Will

Mr Will, You're the man!   ;) 8)

Congrats on your promotion.

PS
Chicks dig scars!
 :P

Offline KajuJKDFighter

  • Senior Moderator
  • Black Belt
  • *****
  • Posts: 3442
  • "Accept the things to which fate binds you"
    • Bono's Jeet Kune Do and Kajukenbo
Re: High School Students/Black Belt Students
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2007, 11:27:47 AM »
From my old school hats.......
[/img]
GM John E Bono DC
9th Degree Grand Master Gaylord Method Kajukenbo
Full Instructor-Hartsell's Jeet Kune Do Grappling Assoc
Chief Instructor Bono's Jeet Kune Do/Kajukenbo
Champions aren't made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them a desire,a dream,a vision

Offline KajuJKDFighter

  • Senior Moderator
  • Black Belt
  • *****
  • Posts: 3442
  • "Accept the things to which fate binds you"
    • Bono's Jeet Kune Do and Kajukenbo
Re: High School Students/Black Belt Students
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2007, 11:28:33 AM »
GM John E Bono DC
9th Degree Grand Master Gaylord Method Kajukenbo
Full Instructor-Hartsell's Jeet Kune Do Grappling Assoc
Chief Instructor Bono's Jeet Kune Do/Kajukenbo
Champions aren't made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them a desire,a dream,a vision