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Offline NYKaju

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Re: Why do martial artists look down on fighting events?
« Reply #45 on: May 08, 2008, 04:42:01 PM »
Age and deceit over youth and skill....again ;D

I never knew that youth prevented one from being deceitful or using trickery. Learn something new every day.
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Re: Why do martial artists look down on fighting events?
« Reply #46 on: May 08, 2008, 04:43:29 PM »
Youth makes you think you are tricky, age makes it happen
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Re: Why do martial artists look down on fighting events?
« Reply #47 on: May 08, 2008, 04:45:05 PM »
I never knew that youth prevented one from being deceitful or using trickery. Learn something new every day.

Age requires more deceit.  The old man compensates for declining physical ability with deceit, and practice makes perfect.
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Re: Why do martial artists look down on fighting events?
« Reply #48 on: May 08, 2008, 04:53:06 PM »
All true plus the young guy will fight to test his skill the older guy will fight so he can get home to have a cold one and relax...who has the bigger motivation?
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Re: Why do martial artists look down on fighting events?
« Reply #49 on: May 08, 2008, 05:00:59 PM »
Youth makes you think you are tricky, age makes it happen

touch?© sir. I feel like I owe you a beer or something. Not often I feel like I got my asp kicked via forum-post ;)
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Re: Why do martial artists look down on fighting events?
« Reply #50 on: May 08, 2008, 05:03:58 PM »
It wasn't about the butt kickin, just the free beer... ;D
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Re: Why do martial artists look down on fighting events?
« Reply #51 on: May 20, 2008, 01:46:27 PM »
I'm wondering if this has to do with social group dynamics.  There is the Heroic Artisan or craftsman ethic that drives boxing.  Boxing isn't two musclebound automata trying to kill each other.  It has to do with fighting skill in the presence of real danger.  If you train at a school and do not demonstrate the craftsmanship (Art) taught at that school, have you betrayed the school?  Do heads of martial arts schools feel that their efforts are belittled by television gladiators that fight violently without demonstrating craftsmanship?
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