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Re: Kajukenbo Shooters
« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2009, 10:28:57 AM »
with this kind of rationing with ammo 1000 is a good amount......crazy out there these days......
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Re: Kajukenbo Shooters
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2009, 11:10:42 AM »
Let me know if your going in the east bay John, I would love to go shooting soon, Maybe that place I got the 45 at? ;)
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Re: Kajukenbo Shooters
« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2009, 02:02:10 AM »
Hey id be interested.  Im a black belt under GM Rick Kingi from Los Angeles, CA but I live in Oakland (and train under Sigung Doug Jones while up here) since I go to a University here in the Bay Area. I've been trying to find a good range to go to and to be honest some instruction since the only weapon i've ever fired was a BB Gun with dad.  I plan on picking up a hand gun sometime soon so if any of you will be up there im down to go, and maybe learn a thing or two.

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Re: Kajukenbo Shooters
« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2009, 02:54:20 AM »
Sure Adam call me, GM Rick is a good friend of mine, and Sigung Doug.. Well .... We are brothers!(not from the same mother) 8)

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Re: Kajukenbo Shooters
« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2009, 11:27:47 PM »
I also love to shoot, both competitively and for fun. I don't know if I could make it up to the bay area because I live in so cal., but if anyone is interested, my coach and long time friend lives up in L.A. and is always either running individual and group clinics and safety classes all over the state. He has students ranging from beginners, National Champions and Olympians and is always willing to teach new people at low or no cost. Email me if you want his info.

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Re: Kajukenbo Shooters
« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2009, 06:31:37 AM »
with this kind of rationing with ammo 1000 is a good amount......crazy out there these days......

I went and picked up some .40 this week... The prices are going up...  :(
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Re: Kajukenbo Shooters
« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2009, 09:20:30 AM »
Cant find 40. here in Abilene.. Ordered some 308 online a couple of weeks ago and now there's no mas.
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Re: Kajukenbo Shooters
« Reply #37 on: April 25, 2009, 12:36:24 PM »
picked up 800 of .45 off a local guy who changed to .40, but super hard to get and expensive here
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Re: Kajukenbo Shooters
« Reply #38 on: April 25, 2009, 01:24:51 PM »
Seems like everything firearms related is hard to find right now...Luckily I stocked up on ammo a while back, but who knows when everything will return to normal... The guys at my local shop cant hardly keep anything on the shelves...
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Re: Kajukenbo Shooters
« Reply #39 on: April 25, 2009, 01:30:40 PM »
I thought this was a pretty good blog by custom gunsmith Grant Cunningham.


Supply Chain Management 101: on the ammunition shortage.
Monday, April 20, 2009 Filed in: Ammunition, General gun stuff, Shooting industry

Gunstores continue to be a never-ending source of hilarity. Walk into your local shooting emporium and ask why there is an ammo shortage, and you'll hear inane speculation coupled with a conspiracy theory or two. The reality is that the supply chain for ammunition is relatively inelastic, and and is easily overwhelmed by a sudden jump in sales.

As one industry consultant has told me, ammunition demand over the years has been remarkably predictable. Ammunition wholesalers know (within a certain margin of error) how many units of each caliber they'll sell in the coming year, and approve purchase orders for the delivery of that amount of product during that year.

Ammo makers, too, know with fair certainty how much they're going to sell to the wholesalers during that period, and sign contracts for the purchase of sufficient components to produce those products. They don't typically keep large stores of components on hand, as standing inventory is expensive, so components are delivered on a "just in time" basis.

The suppliers of those components do the same thing with raw materials; again, ammunition is a stable business, which allows them to forecast with pretty good accuracy the stuff they need to make the components they sell. This pattern repeats itself on up the chain, all the way to the people who mine the stuff necessary to make a single cartridge.

Along comes a huge, sudden spike in demand. Retailers all over the country are suddenly swamped with ammunition purchases, and quickly call their suppliers to get more. The first few calls are rewarded with replacement stock, but soon the wholesaler's shelves are bare too - their entire year allotment of ammunition is gone in just a few days.

The wholesaler calls the maker, and the same thing happens: all of the suppliers are doubling (or more) orders to get their dealers restocked, and the manufacturer is quickly stripped of on-hand components as he tries to fill those orders.

The dealers are out, the wholesalers are out, and now the manufacturers are out. But it gets worse.

The makers of the priming compound, primer cups, brass, powder, jacket material, and lead are suddenly swamped with desperate pleas for more product, and they in turn contact the suppliers of the raw materials for more. The entire chain of supply is empty, and everyone has to wait while all of the raw materials are gathered. (I shouldn't have to tell you that those folks have other contracts to fill before they can get to the rush orders - they're not just waiting around for next year's order from the ammo companies!)

That all sounds simple, but it just isn't. As an example, smokeless powder may contain a huge variety of raw materials: Nitrocellulose, Nitroglycerin, Nitroguanidine, Dibutyl phthalate, Polyester adipate, Ethyl acetate, Diphenylamine, 2-Nitrodiphenylamine, 4-nitrodiphenylamine, N-nitrosodiphenylamine, N-methyl-p-nitroaniline, tin dioxide, bismuth trioxide, bismuth subcarbonate, bismuth nitrate, bismuth antimonide, Potassium nitrate, Potassium sulfate, Talc, Titanium dioxide, Graphite, and Calcium carbonate. Each of these has to be sourced from a supplier, ordered, received, then finally compounded into smokeless powder. Think that all happens overnight??

Once the raw materials are finally in hand, the work can start. Lead has to be formed into projectiles, copper into jackets, brass into casings; priming compound is made from lead azide and/or potassium perchlorate, then the mixture combined with metal cups to make primers (they have to be made, too); the aforementioned powder has to be made (a huge job in itself.)

Once those components are ready, they can be sent to the manufacturer, who puts together into a finished round, then packages them appropriately. (Oops - we forgot that boxes and trays that have to be made and printed. That takes time and materials!) They're then shipped to the wholesaler, who (finally!) can ship to the retailer.

This whole process takes time - lots of it. If demand is high enough (which it has been), even the emergency orders placed all the way to the producers of the raw products may not be sufficient, and shortages will continue. That's what we're seeing right now.

The supply chain is simply empty, all the way up to the people who mine the raw materials. It's going to take time to replace all the links in that chain, and it's not because of the war in Iraq/Afghanistan, The Joos, FEMA, the CIA, a secret agreement to implement gun control through ammo availability, or any other silly theory you may have heard. This is a textbook example of what happens when an inelastic supply chain, composed with scarce "just in time" inventories, meets insatiable demand. It's not sexy or intriguing, but that's the way it is.

You know what's scarier? Your food comes to you the same way. Imagine what would happen if...
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Re: Kajukenbo Shooters
« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2009, 10:28:31 AM »
That is a fine essay on supply and demand but it did not address the "WHY" of the increase in demand which is in fact based on new laws and feared passage of laws by the current administration. Such as Micro stamping, ammo purchace limitations,and other such laws.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2009, 10:30:36 AM by Sifu Sin Bin »
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Re: Kajukenbo Shooters
« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2009, 10:34:54 AM »
Let's hope none of that happens Sigung Rob.....maybe a little prayer
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« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2009, 10:36:59 AM »
coming right up!  8)
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« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2009, 10:37:51 AM »
Thanks Rob...
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Re: Kajukenbo Shooters
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2009, 12:39:14 PM »
Am I mistaken or isn't microstamping already set to take effect in California in 2010?
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