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Offline kfarny

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~"father of mma"=Bruce Lee?
« on: May 17, 2009, 10:49:29 PM »
According to the TV show "Bruce Lee changed the world", Dana White just called B.L. The father of MMA.
Thoughts anyone?
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Re: ~"father of mma"=Bruce Lee?
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2009, 08:04:37 AM »
If you look at the dates that Kajukenbo were formed and the timeline for Bruce Lee and Jun Fan / Jeet Kune Do, Kajukenbo was formed earlier.
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Re: ~"father of mma"=Bruce Lee?
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2009, 08:28:08 AM »
Not taking anything away from Bruce Lee but it is obvious that SIJO and our other founders were/are the fathers of MMA.

There is no doubt that Bruce understood and exercised the importance of studying techniques that work from all ranges. Credit where credit is due.

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Re: ~"father of mma"=Bruce Lee?
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2009, 09:27:27 AM »
Just made me a little peeved that, again, Sijo gets no credit. I guess they have to spruce it up a little because of tv. Not to take anything away from B.L., he was revolutionary and a tremendious martial artist. It's just that he was nine when Kajukenbo was created.  :)
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Re: ~"father of mma"=Bruce Lee?
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2009, 10:28:30 AM »
I'm an Instructor in both arts, didn't Bruce train in the bay area with Kaju people? 
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Re: ~"father of mma"=Bruce Lee?
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2009, 10:51:39 AM »
More than likely.  Bruce Lee stayed with Ed Parker for a short time and it was Mr. Parker who introduced BL at his tournament.

I have said it before, that Bruce Lee didn't do anything "new".  Bruce was just the most famous and more people listened to him.
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Re: ~"father of mma"=Bruce Lee?
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2009, 11:04:16 AM »
I think your off subject they are talking about who started MMA
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Re: ~"father of mma"=Bruce Lee?
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2009, 12:49:43 PM »
not to burst anyones bubble, and no disrespect meant, but the father of MMA are the ancient greeks and the Pancraese(SP) folks, they did the grappling striking etc in ancient times. this is just DW showing his complete lack of understanding of the Martial arts and its history.

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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2009, 01:16:06 PM »
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Re: ~"father of mma"=Bruce Lee?
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2009, 02:39:00 PM »
not to burst anyones bubble, and no disrespect meant, but the father of MMA are the ancient greeks and the Pancraese(SP) folks, they did the grappling striking etc in ancient times. this is just DW showing his complete lack of understanding of the Martial arts and its history.

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I have to agree with Tom, the mixing of Martial *military* arts goes WAY back to antiquity. 

In modern times, it does seem the Doce Pares Mullti-style System is on the forefront of mixing various arts to create one, being founded in 1932 in Cebu, Philippines.

As goes for the Original American Mixed Martial Arts, Kajukenbo takes it, unless there are some people who founded a system we dont know about  ;)


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Re: ~"father of mma"=Bruce Lee?
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2009, 05:20:00 AM »
Aloha,

That is so funny when Sijo leaves us here on earth that everyone is now talking about who was the first MMA.
Maybe it's because we here on Maui are still mouring and griefing about Sijo's passing that maybe it is a touching
issue for us here in Maui. How come when Sijo was alive no one asked Sijo who was the first MMA. no matter what
Sijo Emperado's name will live foreva!!! No disrespect to anyone, but we dearly miss Sijo.

With Much Aloha & Respect,
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Re: ~"father of mma"=Bruce Lee?
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2009, 08:05:13 AM »
I'm an Instructor in both arts, didn't Bruce train in the bay area with Kaju people? 
There is an '87,  I think, Black Belt magazine article about Ahgung (sp) Tony Ramos where it was noted that Bruce Lee trained with him.
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Re: ~"father of mma"=Bruce Lee?
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2009, 08:47:41 AM »
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Re: ~"father of mma"=Bruce Lee?
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2009, 11:13:45 AM »
The pic I put up was GGM Gaylord but Bruce was all over the bay area...
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