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Offline Spidey

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Re: head butts
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2009, 04:10:45 PM »
I remember years ago as a nervous, new brown belt, fighting on a Black belt team. I was matched up with Prof. Joseph Bautista. So I tried doing what any smart fighter would do ... I would hit and run! Once he realized what I was doing, as I threw a punch and turned to run, he snatched me up from behind and head butted me to the back! That wasn't very nice Professor! (and every one still thinks my back is messed up from a car accident, yeah right).
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Re: head butts
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2009, 05:27:51 PM »
Welcome to my world Spidey, Prof Joe and I have faught many times for grand .....been there,...lol...
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Re: head butts
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2010, 10:27:29 AM »
Funny how many people wrote that, but the assumption there is you knew the person was about to attack you.  Also that maybe you trying to get there to use the close trapping range yourself.  I haven't seen or been in many fights that stayed at kicking range for long.  It takes a step from boxing range to trapping.....people get the clinch to the takedown All the time and the trapping range is that 3rd range before the ground....

The question is could you really stop the entry of a skilled fighter.....with out sprinting the other way.......

 Reminds me of a Paul Vunak dvd I saw one time.  Almost all of the stuff he teaches for combatives to military is using the "straight blast" (which is a flurry of punches to the centerline of the opponent) to get them to back up or cover up while you quickly closed the distance and then finish using headbutts, knees and elbows.  They just train that over and over.

Another consideration is that you might not be able to sidestep or angle off on an opponent when in a bar or a parking lot due to environmental considerations. 
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Re: head butts
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2010, 11:23:46 AM »
I've been in many situations where I used what I call the rattlesnake method. As a person either approaches or I sense a confrontation is brewing I create space and let it be known that any forward movement towards me will be taken as an attempted threat on me and action will be taken. Not in those words but you get the idea. I WORKS especially with people in view of the situation because if it does end in a physical confrontaion then all witnesses can give police statements describing what transpired.

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Re: head butts
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2010, 12:01:40 PM »

 Reminds me of a Paul Vunak dvd I saw one time.  Almost all of the stuff he teaches for combatives to military is using the "straight blast" (which is a flurry of punches to the centerline of the opponent) to get them to back up or cover up while you quickly closed the distance and then finish using headbutts, knees and elbows.  They just train that over and over.

 

Close with and destroy the enemy. However, we most often trained to finish them with knife attacks. I carried several knives, all difficult to see or completely concealed to any the opponent. Hand to hand combat for a soldier/marine etc... can occur in certain situations and should be trained; however it is the last part of the fighting continium. Although it is a basis of fact and everything can be built upon it, whenever the soldier's support elements (indirect fires etc...) can not be called upon, he relies on his unit's internal fire support. Whenever these elements are not available due to time and situation, he has only his own personal weapon and the weapons of his squad or platoon. Whenever these weapons are of no use or unavailable he has the environment around him. Whenever these elements are not prudent or time worthy he has his edged weapons. When there are no edged weapons then there is only his empty hands. In all of this progression it must be assumed that the soldier will have to use his bare hands to destroy the opponent.

Everytime you tie up with an opponent you run the risk of getting killed by some weapons system be it the opponent's owned concealed edged weapon or pistol or those of his unit who occupy a blind spot. The strait blast is designed to end things quickly regardless of the weapons system used so that the soldier can continue on his mission. Which in these extreme circumstances is merely survival. I am going to stab them - bottom line. And move on to the next target.

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