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Re: Kajukenbo's Future
« Reply #165 on: December 22, 2010, 04:32:55 PM »
Sifu Ron isn't the old document still posted?...It was when I just looked....
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Re: Kajukenbo's Future
« Reply #166 on: December 22, 2010, 05:48:05 PM »
Thanks Prof. Bono.  I think I took care of it;  I went to every post where there is a link and deleted it.  So the old links should be gone.   

If I could ask a favor:  could you edit your post to delete the link to the old document?  Thank you sir.

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Re: Kajukenbo's Future
« Reply #167 on: December 23, 2010, 11:26:17 AM »
Got ya Sifu Ron...done....Have a great Christmas.....everyone....
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Re: Kajukenbo's Future
« Reply #168 on: December 23, 2010, 01:22:55 PM »
Merry Christmas.  Here's hoping that everyone enjoys a very nice holiday season.
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Re: Kajukenbo's Future
« Reply #169 on: July 14, 2011, 12:27:46 PM »
It's been almost 7 months since this thread was updated.  If I may, a little more future talk.

Standardization

Well this horse has been out of the barn for decades now. Different methods, branches, etc., meant a variety of curriculums. Some schools teach pure Original Method--or slight variations of it--while others revised the original stuff almost completely. Some are strictly MMA and freestyle, some have added a jits component. Lots of different flavors and expressions. All good.

But just as law enforcement and military adjust their training standards to be effective for the current times, can Kaju do similar? A minimal set of updated punch, grab, kick and weapon defenses? A minimal set of grappling standards?

Not a discarding of what schools are doing now. But maybe adding a current minimum set of standards that anyone can expect to learn or train in at any Kaju school here in the U.S. and around the world.

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Re: Kajukenbo's Future
« Reply #170 on: July 14, 2011, 12:48:24 PM »
I like this idea, the thing would be to have a board of Grandmasters, one from each kajukenbo group to agree and aprove of said techniques.
just my opinion
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Re: Kajukenbo's Future
« Reply #171 on: July 14, 2011, 01:06:55 PM »
Makes sense to me, as long as all branches are represented.
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Re: Kajukenbo's Future
« Reply #172 on: July 20, 2011, 07:03:43 AM »
There have been proposals/suggestions that people from the various branches and methods come up with techniques that currently represent them and then submit those techniques in video to their higher ups.  And then, as GM Harper suggested, the higher-ups can view them; approve them; or send them back for revisions, etc.  

The main point is that it's an opportunity for all branches and methods to represent themselves.  And not have a single "one-size-fits-all" standard.
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Re: Kajukenbo's Future
« Reply #173 on: July 20, 2011, 12:13:45 PM »
Aloha Everyone,  I'm not in favor of more control or oversight.  When I received my 3rd Degree my instructor told me no one could tell me what to teach, as long as I was true to my Kajukenbo roots.  I could add, subtract, teach grappling or kickboxing if I chose...whatever.  As long as I retained integrity and honor and my love for my Art. 
He provides guidance, and makes suggestions, comes out and teaches classes (I learn from his example), but he doesn't tell me what to do. 
Just my humble opinion. 
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Re: Kajukenbo's Future
« Reply #174 on: July 20, 2011, 12:46:56 PM »
Aloha Everyone,  I'm not in favor of more control or oversight.  When I received my 3rd Degree my instructor told me no one could tell me what to teach, as long as I was true to my Kajukenbo roots.  I could add, subtract, teach grappling or kickboxing if I chose...whatever.  As long as I retained integrity and honor and my love for my Art. 
He provides guidance, and makes suggestions, comes out and teaches classes (I learn from his example), but he doesn't tell me what to do. 
Just my humble opinion. 
Greg Hoyt

That's understandable, Sifu.  And the word "standards" is probably the wrong term.  It does kinda sound like oversight or control. 

Something like "current representation" of each method/branch or a "resource" for a library of Kajukenbo techniques might convey the right idea.  Anyone from any branch/method could offer up techniques, etc.  The senior(s) of a branch/method could say yay or nay.  And even if a technique or set of techniques doesn't get a thumbs up, it still shouldn't mean that you as an instructor don't still don't teach it.  You do.  And that shouldn't change.

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